Servethehome topton reddit Advertise on STH After seeing a thread about someone having trouble powering on a Topton mini-PC with a certain SSD I decided to give it another go. To sit the machine on a fan I need some space below the fan I guess o it can suck up the air. The 6005 seems to be something to avoid and the 5150 seems to be at the limit of the small fanless case, which is probably the main selling point of those machines. 5" drive bays or something. 2 slots with N100 CPU - DisplayPort works - RAM: Crucial CT32G48C40S5 (1 x 32GB, 4800 MHz, DDR5-RAM, SO-DIMM) - NVMe: 2x NV2 2TB All is working. 0, 2 x DDR4, 1 x PCIe4. The GUI config for Topton is going to try to run down the dispute clock (which starts the moment you hit the confirmation of delivery button, or if it auto-accepts after timeout). 2 2280 slot is disk 1 (Kingston). Would expect it the other way round, but one weird thing I notice is that my internet speed on the proxmox host is suppppppppppppper slow like < 10mbit on a gigabit connection. I just checked again these three: Topton Computer Store, Store No. both boxes like dualrank memory, went up to 32gb each. So the thermals of the shorter one with the holes (which was the best one for the N5105 series) also might be the best for the N100 series. I also intend to Received N100 Unit from Ali (Topton store). I had the same mixed results with Topton when I was unable to get the system to identify dual Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVME drives. 5W even with the Topton configured (512GB/16GB) unit. Removing What would be realistic NAT routing performance expectations against N6005, N100 and N200 variants (eg: from topton store on ali) running proxmox and pfsense with a couple of i226's passed through? Not doing much fancy, not using traffic shaping or IDS functionality, have some (<10) port filtering rules in the firewall, have a couple of Topton was trying to buy time so the dispute window would expire. I just saw them on Topton. Media serving is being handeled by the Topton N5105 mini ITX build in a Fractal Design Node 304 and draws 24Watts idle (37Watts under load). My intended application is firewall and (lightweight) VM host for AdGuard etc. Does anyone have a box with an additional M. That looks like the skinny version N5105. Though my use is going to be a bit different. There seems to be using older Intel chips. You can also read more options with ssh terminal. Wondering what people use all the ports for , One for WAN, one for LAN I guess , but if the LAN is going to a switch why the need of the other ports ? - 1x WAN, 1x LAN - bought set to pass through on Proxmox - 1x dedicated LAN port to steer Proxmox. My main router is an APU2 (AMD Jaguar x86) running the release version of OpenWrt with SQM (cake), secure+private DNS, NTP, server, a couple dozen firewall rules and whole-house ad blocking; the CPU never breaks a sweat. did replace it with a XP Power 50W, ordered at al local supplier. It worked fine but I got the "itch" and wanted to write a BIOS update from CWWK website. 0 onboard (JMB585 chip) 6Gbps high-speed hard disk interfaces 4 Intel Hi friend, I have thought long and hard about different NAS build scenarios including using this board for the past few weeks. shows two Dimm sockets the new board doesn't have, and they still praise upgrades introduced on the N5105, like the newer NICs or a change in the case. have anyone got the same one or mange to update the bios either similar to protectli or coreboot , I'm worrying about these chinese version might even with low Keep in mind that practically all commercially sold x86 hardware comes with unknown and opaque firmwares in many places. iso (ISO file I got from seller). This is one will serve as my firewall/router and Home Assistant server I followed the same instruction from page 4. Will post of my experience after. Let's wait for some more tests, but at the moment this thing is even beaten by a J4125 and all at least I hope is that they TopTon was being extremely unhelpful in our private messages, but AE granted my partial refund request. I just don't think I can get it much below 9 to 10 watts. 5Gbps, B3 stepping. Since the info said it's only for V3/V4 I went for the latest bios version here: BIOS下载. 2) somewhat unstable. Just wondering if anyone has had any trouble getting this board to POST with a PCI-E SATA controller connected? I purchased a PCI-E SATA controller with the ASM1166 chipset to go in the BKHD-N510X-NAS-I22X (N5105) board, however with the controller present in the PCI-E slot the fans will spin when I power on, but the board will never POST. Get the latest iteration of Hardware (v5) incl. My thought process for this piece were: Avoid Topton and its sisterstores (e. I've got a V3 unit and pointers from this thread got me to open it up for inspection and doing a repaste. I'm thinking of making a 5-bay NAS using a purple Topton motherboard and a Buffalo TS5400R. 5Gbps throughput with FULL IDS/IPS going and maybe 2 wireguard site to site VPNs running or would you need the i7-1265U. Anybody else with the same issue? Thanks. KingNovy) at all cost. Especially if I end up adding a fan to the passive CWWK/Topton/Hunsn box. So I've been having a super intermittent and fussy problem with my new Topton N5105 i226 (x4 NICs). CWWK seems to have done a much better job and the J6413 did not require repasting. Looks the main option would be the one from Topton. I’m in an AC room now, on the bios screen, and its reading 61’C. 5Gb Ethernet ports. I ended up shimming the gap using aluminum foil between the chassis and copper block. update: they told me Yeah, I prefer OpenWrt, too. With 2 SSDs I am at Max memory: Only 1 memory channel is supported. 64 yet I have found articles such as this that state kernel version 6. Trying to connect them to an HDMI monitor is not possible. 5GbE LAN, M. CPU temp didnt display. 5 Gps NICs and 2x M. 5 or 2. ordered a N6005 with 6x i225 2. You only have 15 days from the confirmation of delivery to file a dispute, otherwise you'll have to take the long way like me and go through AliExpress/PayPal. 10, Proxmox 8. It works perfectly the first time you boot it (now that I got a massive USB Noctua fan on top of it) but if you powercycle it just starts restarting after a couple of minutes and it is only possible to boot in to recovery mode. @oneplane gave insight that these requires certificates from Intel, which the board makers don't want to pay for, but then they are also too lazy to remove the option from the BIOS. Coincidently, pin 6 is also TX on the topton, that's why I got console output, but the RX pin is at pin 5, not 3 (cisco et al). Under normal/light usage it might be sufficient. I have read through almost the entirety of this thread and have found a lot of useful information but none that could completely solve my problem. They were frustrating to deal with because they spent the first 20 Topton 13th Gen Soft Router 2*10g Sfp 4x I226-v 8x 2. It looks like you are setting it up under grub, but since your system is UEFI boot the Proxmox installer probably configured to boot via systemd rather than grub. It works well. I'm trying to get it to work with Proxmox, using Dell/EMC SFP+'s (dell emc ftlx8574d3bnl-fc) G Welcome to the Reddit Control Center for all things Rocket Lab, from its stock ticker (Nasdaq: RKLB) to company news, mission launches (49 TD) and general rocket related news reports. 0 I have the Topton Mini PC with the 1135G7 Intel CPU and I came up a nice trick to reduce the temperature. I don't want to run the 9020 as it defintely uses a lot more power than the N6005 TOPTON box. I am planning to build light vHost with this board. html. I ordered 3 times at Topton, and everytime something was not ok. LaunderedShirt New Member. Or check it out in the app stores but I'll be moving to a Topton N100 unit when the slow boat arrives. The motherboard e. The good thing about the 80mm is that it can be screwed on the backplate and then put a stand so the fan is not directly in the table. No idea why the one you ordered spec's both other than the ability for the seller to slip you either and get away with it from the 'as listed' perspective. So basically I have a Topton but with the i1135G7 and the i225V 4 port ethernet. bin file - Bought this Topton in the photo (specs: N100 16GB DDR5 512GB NVME) with PFSense pre-installed. Previously they made a N5105 board According to manufacturer's webpage (it's manufactured by Changwang like many similar small PCs reviewed and discussed on this site, e. The i5-1135G7 system arrived this weekend. That said, I found their proprietary SATA cable rather flimsy and on 3 disk RAIDZ1-0 ZFS (other two M. weird - and frustration since I got no idea where to start debugging. Two different sets of DIMMs, two different SSDs. Maybe I should just go ahead of submit a PayPal dispute as well. So I am not aware of anyone having issues with any of the N5105/N6005 units for bare metal pfSense/OpenSense. Is the link Topton's official store because I've also seen many variations for Topton. It was a little difficult to find the updated BIOS (V107) for the 4 port Topton Jasper Lake SBCs because the link someone shared on here to changwang was no longer valid, so I found it elsewhere, cleaned it up, and sharing it here. I'm just wondering if this new TOPTON or CWWK i5-1235U mini system will run full 2. After seeing a thread about someone having trouble powering on a Topton mini-PC with a certain SSD I decided to give it another go. I just finished the Prime95 run after 23. Another 25Eur in taxes as i presumed . I have it only for couple days and still testing things out before putting it "in production". 2 NVMe(PCle4. Unfortunately, now the device is booting For anyone interested I've recently bought variation of this N5105 board from KingnovyPC ( Płyta główna NAS N5105,4 port i226/i225 2. They couldn't provide me a date on when its available. You should be able to reach that side by removing the 4 screws for the side panel (I was) and plug the cable in there. I do not know compatibility with these files. There is I got the Topton miniPC with 4 ports and an additional COM port with an Intel i5-1135G7and I have installed Proxmox on it. Hi, yes the temperature widget is quite accurate. Is there a way to cut down on the heat, since it seems to be turboed even at idle network. I had to contact AliExpress directly and escalate the issue, so waiting for a manager’s reply in a day or two. In the end, I managed to get a full refund (discussion here). I'll be running prime95 to test thermals and memtest. We will see. 0, Mini ITX miękki router VPN Otenwrt Barebone Micro Appliance DIY : Amazon. This 'NAS' motherboard is far from perfect, but it works great as a home NAS or light duty Proxmox node. 5g Lan U300e I5 1240p Nvme 6*sata Firewall Appliance Mini Pc Proxmox Server - Buy Sfp Router U300e fanless Pc Server 8505 home Server Mini Pc I5 1240p Product on Alibaba. Check this reddit for tips. I just had an bad experience with Topton regarding this nuc. 7. They're not too expensive $340-$450 depending on the ports and the CPU. (Topton X8 4xIntel i226-V 13th Gen Firewall Mini PC 2*10G SFP i5 1335U 2*DDR5 NVMe 2*SATA Soft Router Proxmox Server) configured with 32GbE RAM, 1TB NVMe Anyone know what Nic chip it uses on the 10GbE side. But if you just need a *. 19. 14US $ 34% OFF|Fanless pfSense Router 6x Intel i225 V 2. 2 Carrier board mounting bracket by NickLD Hope it is helpful to someone else! If I decide to add some HDDs, my next idea will be to design and print a replacement bottom cover for the unit featuring some 3. It al looks stable for 9 days and then out of the blue the units crashes during PVE backups from the high speed 4x NVMe to the lower speed 1x NVMe. 2 bare metal. This server doesn't need to be on during the night or when im at work, i always can switch the server on from anywhere via a smartplug from the Tapo app as this motherboard supports always on wheren power Hello, I picked up one of the Topton N100 Mini PCs, and since got it was having some weird issues with a flickering screen and the system freezing in bios before I could get it to boot via USB. So, now I have an heatsink If this is a reply to me; I have a 120 mm Noctua Fan sitting on the fins and with the standard bios settings it is enough cooled and the fan is not noticeable. 0) 2280 size 6 SATA3. pl: Elektronika) This version has 1xNVME slot and 1xPCIE (x2), I found out it uses Normally I wouldn't even consider the Topton, but there is the ability for a 4g/5g module to be installed and this feature (noting I need to source a modem from somewhere, be keen on suggestions) is useful for some testing I want to do with edge cameras. canceled and searched for alternatives, saw hundreds of N6005 with six ports available from Topton, odered one of them. Leaning towards the cheaper TopTon one since I can add my own DDR5 ram and NVME. 5W at the plug. You may need to leave the device running for I have the 305 V2 from HUNSN and another local got the same motherboard from TopTon. CWWK included PS works. To get somewhat equivalent functionality to CAKE in opnsense, you'd have to do htb+fq_codel since FreeBSD does not have a CAKE implementation. I have the 4 port Topton original PSU was the same Brand as the Changwang (DAJING), could not test it because of adapter (non EU connector). I suspect their stock ran dry early-mid October, but they kept accepting orders with rosy shipping estimates (which I paid extra for). pl: Elektronika) This version has 1xNVME slot and 1xPCIE (x2), I found out it uses What found in my Topton Ryzen 7 5800U testing so far is that, it is super stable and packs far more horsepower than the fanless N5105. But basically the CPU widget is fine, you do need to go into System->settings-->miscellaneous, and find the thermal sensor option and choose Intel/Amd based on your hardware to have more I just got it from AliExpress with Topton Store, added Crucial DDR5 16GB and Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500GB. I have 2 cwwk units and 1 topton N100 unit, looking at the picture it looks the same (barrel) but its an illustration shot. However there's a slightly different one, it even has a fan. (example) Motherboard core features Inte® 12th Generation Alder Lake-N low-power processor Standard 17x 17 Mini-ITX form factor compatible with market 115x series radiators Dual M. Apart from adding a (ghetto) USB fan on the top I also removed the front and back panels to increase the airflow (and dust) inside the unit. Removed the copper plate, sanded surfaces smooth replaced the thermal paste with new stuff. Certainly happy with the purchase so far. I retried single DIMM A, single DIMM B, dual DIMM, no SSD, SSD in slot 1, SSD in slot 2. I would even dare say that a better designed chassis would warrant a well-deserved $25-50 price increase. 0 ports for now, you have to remember these are just the very first units within a 6 months or 1 years time we will probably be on revision 3-4 etc, I think the N5105 peaked and got the best it was Hello all. Just the 4 nvme bios from cwwk. I've ran the tests with the case open and a large fan blowing on it before, so its not overheating. Not sure what's causing that. 2 is needed for improved power management. Intel Core i3-8145U; Intel Core i5-10210U; Intel Core i7-10510U; There is a base motherboard with 6x SATA ports and then they've got an internal PCIe riser with a 2-port Intel 10G NIC or a 4-port 2. @TraXter tested with 32GB and it seems to have worked. Hi, i plan to get the Topton n305 6x LAN 2. Fingers crossed that you all find good solutions to your problems! Edit: I also successfully did a full parity rebuild on my Unraid array Topton ist not reliable, I would order at ChangWang. Will be setting up later tonight hopefully. Well I am quite happy to post this update. From my research on the I just installed Proxmox VE on my new N100 from Topton: Check the review on ServeTheHome, i think they stated there that the PSU was pretty bad. 5122038, open 4 years Does the linux kernel in Unraid have full support for Alder Lake-N power management? The current Unraid release uses kernel version 6. You likely won't tell the difference in real world use between the two memory types - especially with that processor. But you can try referencing this reddit post (Reddit - Dive into anything) to add temps into your pve summary page which is what I have done. (Note: Sub is now formatted for New Reddit) I have the purple CWWK Board (Topton) with 2x 2. First, I will explain why I set my home router up in this fashion. So after much prodding it seems Topton is now prepared to resolve the issue. The PS included by Topton is lower quality, but they are also priced cheaper. 4. 2 NVMe, 6 x SATA3. There is a really good thread on the servethehome forums talking about these minipcs it's worth checking out. Another update from a new Purple N100 owner, having had a bit of time to play around with it and compare to the older black DC model. My setup: - two PCs, both with 82599 (X520) cards connected by fiber to the topton running pfSense 2. I have the Crucial 48GB memory stick. Unfortunately, it worked somehow I bought my N5105 i225 unit (mw-jsl2. Company and brand will be gone in 6 months and stuff will then be sold from Mopton. My intention is to have GP OS like Arch/Ubuntu to serve as host and have the router virtualized. Topton Jasper Lake Quad i225V Check the review on ServeTheHome, i think they stated there that the PSU was pretty bad. And since the dragged out return period is now over, I cannot even let Aliexpress help me any more. 0 version of this mini-PC from cwwk. Go back a few pages in the thread, I've done a fair bit of testing on a device very similar to yours with a Topton 4xi225 / pentium 7505. It has two Intel i225v-r3 2. Not sure how others experiences with Topton is, but it seems they really don’t like resolving issues. New here and also new with Topton and opnsense. Names can vary, from Topton V600, Topton NUC 13th gen etc etc. I'm reading N100 and new Atom C5315 reviews on STH main site. setting. C. They mentioned there is a new 4 NIC motherboard revision coming soon, and after current stock is sold going forward future stock will have at least a 40mm fan mount as standard with a resigned vented bottom panel plate. I know for certain that my TopTon unit is defective, but I've been able to use it for non-critical applications just fine. Plus, less eletricity bill. My first post here. For anyone interested I've recently bought variation of this N5105 board from KingnovyPC ( Płyta główna NAS N5105,4 port i226/i225 2. At my request I didn't try these but you can find a lot of discussion about them on reddit. with this ammount extra the price is the same as for topton. both boxes got retail cpus and intel i225-v3 chips Topton also posted up a new appliance that uses a i7-1165G7 that would be a bit faster than the 8260U, and it has 6x i225 NICs. Are the extra Ethernet ports on the CWWK/Topton/Hunsn box useful? It seems like the Beelink will do the same thing as the others at a decent cost savings. So as the title states, I am wondering if anyone has long term experience with Aliexpress Router Hardware from the likes of TopTon, KingNovy, Cwwk and so on. 1. Go with CWWK. Motherboard core features Equipped with AMD "Zen 4" architecture Ryzen ™5/7/9 series high-performance processors 17x17 standard Mini-ITX form factor compatible with 1700 series CPU coolers 1 PCI-E x16 slot PCle4. The same as reviewed by servethehome here https: StandingDesk stands (heh) against Reddit corporate takeovers but this sub's current state would Interesting that these boards support staggered spin up. Small detail, but relevant: Topton also has an I3 router with this taller case - but here you can see heat pipes, which is not the case for the YSJMNPC version. Maximum power consumption hit 24. I have updated to the newest BIOS (the non-sata boot version). @chripo, I would be interested to compare BIOS settings with you, and am curious which Linux distro you are using. I only placed the order with digi yesterday and it says its due tomorrow which makes no sense since its coming from US to UK, can't be that fast surely but either way ill update it the one I linked above with those barrel Hey Guys, also have a Top N6005 with i226-v (Bare Bones System) on the way. Everything is working as exspected but the only thing i ran into is that the frequentie off the n5105 is not scaled down with no use. 5G Nics i7 1165G7 i5 1135G7 NVMe MSATA Micro Firewall Router PC ESXi OPNsense Proxmox| | - AliExpress Just got my HUNSN N100, the same as the Variation A: (TOPTON) Im a little unsecure about a aftermarket PSU for it, I want a good stabile quality PSU, and I want it with the same connector plug as the original, straight and not angled or with some add-on converter plug. OK, a link to google drive - CW-NAS-N5105-23. I imagine you're measuring power at the wall, be aware that most psu's below 10W load are quite inefficient. I encountered the info on other pages (ali as well) that in this case the expanded slots become 20W seems high for a mostly-idling system. There are two reasons for me asking. 1 that that causes data corruption with FAT32 and UFS. I wouldn’t have high confidence Changwang got the v1 board right. Hey guys, Just want to check with anybody that did the BIOS update to a v. CWWK/TOPTON N100/N200/N305 M. SSD with adapter is recognized as disk 0 (AData), SSD in m. So these Topton Mini-PC 's are really headless usable only for me, or any user. It also costs quite a lot more though. I'm happy with it. If you see the topton unit here think it list duty free, not sure how true that is. This could mean that their JMB585 firmware/optionROM implements the parts needed to properly integrate the configuration options in a way that's compatible with UEFI HII. Maybe this is the best reason to keep the CPU fan 'ticking over' rather than completely off. Some users report developing whine noises after a year of use but still functions. This model looks really solid. I reasoned that foil would be thermally good enough and easy to find compared to copper. My experience with Topton wasn't great: 1. com Considering the area around SATA controller's heatsink is nearing 50's, I'm not sure if that's even gonna improve anything. C-states enabled, the temps went from 50ish to mid-30s. **edit** set PowerD to adaptive in pfsense and temps Nah, mine doesn't come with one. 2 M. I have LAN1-3 all disabled completely. I'm fairly happy with it overall I adjusted the power levels and enabled C-states in the BIOS to better control power, as well as fiddling with Intel's Speed Shift It seems Topton is still lying and they dont have any stock, they provided me with Aramex tracking number since 3 days and still showing invalid/no data available. Just had a closer look at the page of Topton, and it seems they copy&paste moved the description and pictures from the N5105 to the N100 page. Jan 22, 2023 #65 I got a 4125 router based appliance (also from topton) and that is already running the latest version of proxmox. As soon as I connect the power supply, the power led turns on with a long beep followed by 3 short beeps. I think you were right and refund was the way to go. This leaves me with one unused one, which Thanks for the help, this was a good read and I was leaning towards just getting the "Topton N6005" board but then someone mentioned there was a "Topton J6413" board. When it arrived, I cleaned off the thermal paste and could see quite a gap between the CPU and the copper block. they sent it via the cheapest way possible (aka national Post). RAM temp was around 70C installed OPNsense on baremetal (not interested in Proxmox yet as i don’t have a use case. TLDR: The device can push 20 Gbps (10 in and 10 out) with packet inspection enabled. I just got this board (CWWK-ADLK-NAS-V10) w/ the N305 CPU, and I've been struggling to get it booting for several days. Jun 13, 2023 3 6 3 Canada. Topton told me that unless explicitly mentioned, none of these units based on Changwang or Bluetech boards will have TPM support. Model C case. ARK says 16 GB max, but the KingNovy and Topton reps have both said it works with 32 GB. Unit is still running strong so far. I ordered on Nov 1, and received it on Nov 15th. As an upside, the fan controller hi guys. FWIW mine came with all the correct screws and backplate. Mine looked ok. 2. I have no need for SATA drives in my HA/router box. 2 PCB? The CWWK's device page on aliexpress CWWK's device page on aliexpress advertises a variety PCB to expand the single M. Overall more powerful cpu with more pcie lanes and configurations: Intel Core I7 10510U And Core I5 10210U Ah, yeah, OK -- was thinking that was the same motherboard as this one, but somehow they squeezed in a 2 x 10gbe card. Manufacturers rarely bother to do this. Plan to open and clean it up then apply my own thermal paste, add a Sabrent Rocket Heatsink to the M2 SSD and add a Noctua NF-A4 Fan for better cooling. Using two cheapish SSD, a Kingston NV1 and a AData Legend 700, both 250 GB. An SF450 Platinum would have been better (drawing even 1W less)[1]. I arrived to the same conclusion, an AM4 build is much cheaper for this purpose than ordering a topton/cwwk/bkhd board. The I've got a Topton N100 4 port. Topton recently released new NAS boards: https://www. RAM: Crucial DDR5 16GB NVME: 256GB Integral BIOS: ALN4L101 (27 Sep 2023) No BIOS settings changed. Just started reading servethehome forum, looks like thats where all the good knowledge is. I'll have some time TopTon got back to me overnight and said "Our engineers say you need to reduce power consumption and install a fan". Could these tests be performed with Ubuntu or something with the latest linux kernel to see whether idle The topton and kingnovy 5105 and 6005 units are known to run very warm so keep that in mind. Most benchmarks show DDR5 to be between 2-20% faster depending on the usage, but it is highly dependent on the use case/workload it is exposed to and I don't think what you will be running is going to "push" the limits of the RAM speed. I don't think you can passthrough the sensors into opnsense from the host machine. Unless my smart plug (a Revogi strip) measures the apparent power and not the effective Variation A: (TOPTON): using the same case used for the variation of N5105/N6005 boxes offering the best cooling solution. 1. I did take a look at the heat sink clearances. Facebook Twitter Reddit Pinterest Tumblr I did some reading and asking across a few communities on the whole i225/6 disconnections be it openwrt, reddit and here, short answer felt not really an issue with these type of mini routers while under opensense, pfsense, openwrt, proxmox. Unless my smart plug (a Revogi strip) measures the apparent power and not the effective one??. 3. Cooling seems to be okayish on this one. aliexpress. net store. And whatever you buy, put the stuff you get through a couple hours torture test first. For example, CWWK's quad-port i225/i226 N5105/N6005 boards for the router barebones have evolved 5 versions and it stayed on version 5 for over 3 months(or over 6 months?); but its N5105/N6005 NAS board for retails(not the diskless NAS Passmark of 2800 (N100) is not good : PassMark - Intel N100 - Price performance comparison - the N5105 is rated with 4100, and especially in encryption (N100: 1600 MB/sec, N5105: 3100 MB/sec) and data compression the N100 is really weak. Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Topton, in this case Wooyi: So after going through almost all posts in here I decided to go with the following: Barebone CWWK N5105 i226 v5. 5G i226-V Mini PC DDR5 and i'd like to know what 32GB RAM would be most compatible given the choices below: (note: These are the only ones available in the Philippines) . 1, Fedora 39) cause the system to hard-reboot about a That looks like it’s using a Changwang CW-N6000 v1 board, but I’ll have to double check. Is the wrap up you wrote back in Jun/July still applicable? I'm newer to Linux in general, but I do have a node up and running now for my media server arr's. us/item/3256806126709223. Next up, I am going to discuss my reasons for upgrading to the ServeTheHome is the IT professional's guide to servers, storage, networking, and high-end workstation hardware, plus great open source projects. 0 x8 signal supports expansion of graphics card/network card etc. TopTon tried to message me after AE's decision, they were trying to get me to low the partial refund by about 50% lol. Jul 12, 2023 #464 It's the n305 version from topton. 2 NVMe x1 signal (PCle3. The J6413 natively supports up to 32GB of RAM where as the N6005 is only 16GB (though people have had success with more). I added a 250GB PNY SATA SSD and 32GB DDR4 3200 (2x16GB) I had on hand. Ordered 3 weeks ago. L. If running in a VM then you need to make sure the host Linux kernel is at least 5. If anything, the Chinese ODMs just use whatever generic AMI/Insyde stuff they can get their hands on; if something scary is going on in the firmware, that would probably happen as a loaded module (since you'd need source access to Yes its 2 tiny tabs holding it, I did try to use a screw driver and push it down with plenty force but it looked good and proper welded on there so just wrapped the back cover in some microfibre soft cloth and small hammer to it few times and it came undone. At idle, we saw between 10-12W depending on single versus double SODIMM configurations. Overall pretty good device. For hardware I'm running a HP EX900 Pro 265GB NVMe SSD, 2x8GB of Crucial DDR4-3000 (running at 2933); SSD passes SMART extended, and Good day, bought Topton bk-1264np-4l, need to do bios flash to make it cooler. Crucial 16GB 3200MHz CT16G4SFD832A and CT16G4SFRA32A (careful could be single rank) modules work. 911768325, open 2 years Topton Official Store, Store No. I didn't have much time to push it yet, but tried OPNsense, Casa OS, pfSense on Proxmox. /r/HomeServer: for all your home, small, and medium business server, software, and related discussions! I am looking to build a low power usage NAS and have been looking at a couple Hey, has anyone tried using Topton fan-less router/ miniPC models with Intel Celeron 11th gen as a Plex server using a HDD? I want a portable server Has anyone already found a suitable case for the board by the way? Just don't wait too long and open the dispute before the buyer's protection expires. 2 NVME x4 into multiple slots. A Beelink EQ12 16GB/500GB is about $200 after a coupon at Amazon (US). Nice! And of course no other solution from Topton, just strange answers right out of the bullshit-lottery. I'll be connecting the 10G NIC using a riser cable, but I'm worried about what kind of problems might arise if I place it too close to the power supply. I did repaste my CPU. 4. Figured I would just clear the CMOS and see if that fixed it. People report it failing under memtest stress test. Reactions: LaunderedShirt. 2546008, open 6 years Topton PC Store, Store No. 28. Guys, i'm interested in a n5100 unit because i don't need the extra power of the popular n5105. Servethehome has a long thread about this in the networking section of their forums. There is also a Topton interesting fanless version, with i7-1355U, on Ali Express. Follow this tutorial. I used to have an old NAS running TrueNAS Core with 3x HDDs (Data drives) and 1x SSD as a boot drive and I wanted to move it to a more power efficient setup. Are there any BIOS settings to reduce the temps on the N100/200/305's? My 305 is running like a furnace(44c at 1-2% load) in the CWWK case Variation C. It was a wall wart with 36W. In case you mean suggestions for a new PSU: I went for buying a 2nd hand but hardly ever used Corsair SF600 Platinum (CP-9020181-EU) which has a power dissipation of just 7 - 8W with loads of 20 - 40W. OPNsense and pfsense might be affected by a problem with FreeBSD 13. AM4 also supports ECC, if you are interested in that. 435. 5g-4l) off of Topton's Alibaba page. g. Topton’s main warehouse is based in Dongguan City. The stress tests above can attest to that as well. i5-10210U, had to pay taxes although they said there are no tax fees, took 10 days until they shipped it, got several tracking numbers from DHL, FedEx, UPS. VM internet speed is fine. the topton unit got a jsl mobo, cheap noname power supply (us plug) and a travel adapter (eu/even cheaper) but thermals are great 3. I've been reading several posts about lowering my Topton's n100 idle power usage without luck. The unit does not seem to post. As others have mentioned already, this CPU/Motherboard comes with way too much thermal paste pre-applied from the factory; and I'd heard about this with Topton, but when checking the business license on AliExpress all three stores were registered to the same license and address. This subreddit is temporarily private as part of a joint protest to Reddit's recent API changes Your Topton is just one more incident and only accidentally from China. I have an N305 on order, but right now I only have the N200 and it idles around 9W (including 2 x nvme) I would start by checking power management settings in OPNSense/BIOS: Oh, thanks a lot! Yes, there's a lot to look into there and it seems it came Advanced - Power & Performance - CPU - C states - Package C State Limit: C10 - RC ACPI Settings - Native PCIE Enable: Enabled - Native ASPM: Enabled Chipset - System Agent (SA) Configuration - Memory Configuration - In-Band ECC Support: Enabled # optional - Graphics Configuration - Skip Scaning of External Gfx Card: Enabled # optional - RC1p My factory BIOS version was GF-1338NP-12-V13, date of build is 09/07/2022. Installed a Samsung DDR5 stick and a 128gb sk hynix pcie nvme ssd. Why did you order it, despite this bug, and now complain about it? Concerning Ali - it is always gambling, and rule #1 for ordering is: only buy goods you can write off without a headache. even though they charge shipping (ok, fine topton has it already baked in the price) is not the best, via Liege that is the busiest hub in EU. The WAN interface is one of Could I ask you to share it again, the link expired, thanks. Yes, Topton pulled the same tricks on me. 4 or higher. Topton has a new variant: link By the looks of it, it is not made by cwwk, but another oem, probably the same as the G30W-N100. But I have mentioned this issue in my first comment about the N100. 3 or v. My drives are intentionally The N6005 and N5105 both came from Topton and I had to repaste those units because both would immediately spike to 93C under prime95. So looks like they are suspecting a power related or an overheating issue. Much faster than pfSense/OPNsense for everything I do. 4 I currently have an N6005 with i225 v3, did a bios upgrade to the latest version and I can't get the HDMI working anymore. Variation C (YSJMNPC, CWWK): this I had been looking for an unnecessarily fast router that could handle 5Gb or even 10Gb WAN with a ton of pfblocker and suricata rules enabled and I think I've finally found it. From memory the BIOS would only show the drive connected via the PCB connected to the 2230 A+E port. In this article, I am going to cover a few topics. Been used by other brands like Qotom for many years all fine. Bought the N100 model from the CWWK store. 5 hours and had no errors at all So I guess either the board is really picky with RAM sticks in general or some of you (@heyelly @m11k @mikecsmith) had really bad luck with faulty boards. I am using Unraid, my power consumption with only USB flash and an SD card and only using LAN0 is about 6W. I purchased a barebone system and the memory I ordered hasn't arrived so I don't have any test results yet. Build quality feels solid. Power was not a winning point of this solution. My Topton box with the 1240P processor and 10G SFP+ ports arrived today. My problem is that if I passthrough port 1 or 4 (enp2s0, enp5s0) to a proxmox VM it fails with a message "Can't go from D3cold to D0, device inaccessible" or something like that. I got a Topton unit N6005 4x intel 2. I'm guessing that it would need more cooling than the beefier V3 topton unit due to the difference in heatsink size. The major problem, it seems, is that Changwang which is the ODM for the CW-N6000 v1/v2 boards in most of the Topton/KingNovy units can’t get it right even on the v2 board me and @PigLover got. Are you CPU temps ok? My room is probably 20C. I use it as a home lab Hyper-V host with Windows Server 2019 (1TB NVME and 64GB RAM). Dec 28, 2022 28 13 3. with worse shipping So I got the n100 mini pc form AliExpress topton , its ruining Pmox great with pfsnese which is great , but I might be little bit carfull and through google search it lead me here . I don't think you can configure that from the GUI. Sweet unit! I canceled my original Topton Direct J4125 order due to non-shipment / general vendor shadiness, and now I'm glad I did and opted for the 5105 instead. The temperatures are fine though on idle 52 and the highest what i have seen is around 70 degrees celcius. a) Kingston Fury Impact 32GB | KF548S38IB-32 (2Rx8) b) Kingston ValueRAM 32GB DDR5 4800MHz KVR48S40BD8-32 I have yet to install a fan in my case, but the connector is also on the opposite side. Is there any neat way to disable the built-in SATA controller for those C-states to work? E: yes, disable PCI Root port #2 in BIOS. Intel 226. . Yeah I think the newer N100 and above do not have the usb 3. A few notes: it has a typo in start script - so if you boot from this ISO, you need to execute flash manually. 1 hour before the refund window closed they marked it as shipped with a fake tracking number. I got CW-AL-4L-V2. A couple days ago, after the TopTon had my mini pc's motherboard for a month, I raised a ticket with aliexpress as I wasn't getting anywhere. Am i understanding correctly that N100 actually beat Atom C5315 on compression and crypto benchmarks even though the latter is 38W part AND equipped with QAT Gen 2? I'm moving from Atom C3558 to N100 and i thought i was downgrading Hello everyone, I have recently bought a CW-NAS-ADLN-K board from TopTon and like many others have been experiencing quite some issues getting it to boot. Could anyone here with a MB As for the Topton units, honestly if they put a little more effort into the BIOS, designing a better chassis, and not trying to pass off ES/QS CPUs as "retail", I would have no problem saying the units are an absolute steal price-wise. Both of them have issues with the Crucial 48G RAM module CT48G56C46S5. If anyone does buy one, i'm interested in the bios options. Where can i find ISO for BIOS flashing, link that Thys gave is not working anymore. The most appealing part of this device is the fact that its fanless, and I don't have to worry about years of dust accumulating internally or more moving parts that can fail. That was reason #1 for ordering from CWWK, because their reputation is higher than Topton. Running the original BIOS, did not update yet. C13 Connector sitting rock solid, also the connector at the device itself Still confusing then how others got topton units and got their wallytech wifi same model cards to work, only obvious difference is their units were 4 port and mine is 6 port, maybe an 4port nic unit has the mini pcie slot better connected and working not sure. Hello to all from Germany - Great thread! I purchased a J4125 unit from Amazon Germany back in May - been running with Proxmox and OPNSense for some time - upgraded to 16GB RAM and added 512GB SSD - Only issue is when it's tasked too hard, it shuts itself down (I think thermal shutdown of some sort) - no issues with i225-v3 and passthrough - runs quite Then I did some searching around and found ServeTheHome's video for the Topton's N305 Variant. [] All of the recent installers that I tried (Debian 12, Ubuntu 23. We also support the protest against excessive API costs & 3rd-party client The one you got has i225v NICs. 5G NIC. I've also been reading lots of posts about replacing the thermal grease/paste on these mini PCs. I am not sure about the evolution of CWWK's NAS boards. Just in general, sure its fine even mine is without a fan but what happens if you hit I recently bought a Topton Motherboard with the N5105 in it. I'm presuming the CWK is going to be much better from a heat/support perspective? On multiple occasions, TopTon support have mentioned not using Kingston HyperX memory - so clearly they are aware of some memory compatibility issues with this system: Dear, Barebone bundle had best to use Samsung, Micron, Skhynix etc ORIGINAL brand ram and storage. cwwk and topton support have no idea. ZFS doesn't appear to have a I own a Changwang N5105 V2 since 2022. i should have ordered from CWWK *facepalm*. Mine at 6W output draws 9. Topton V600 are confusing because sometimes can be 12th gen (with DDR4) sometimes 13th gen (with DDR5). august. Anybody knows if uses the same JHZD BQM5 Rev C motherboard? Questions: - Cooling is noisy? Hi, i'm also considering those shiny topton boxes with Nxxx CPUs. After that, I decided to ask seller on aliexpress for newer version of BIOS but seller said that I shouldn't update bios. They told me to cancel it since they N6005 is out of stock. CuriousShrew New Member. Any usb peripheral or video output adds watts. I picked up the 6 port j6413 version from topton to use as an opnsense firewall/router. Just tested, working with two NVMe. Found an old Allied Telesyn cable while searching through my cable collection for something with a soldered DB9-connector where I could crimp on an RJ45 connector, but that cable worked 'as is' so I'm using that for now I don't use openwrt, but I do use linux because, like @devast, I want CAKE SQM. Windows Server 2022 is not stable on it as the VM's do BSOD (bot Linux and Have you tweaked your BIOS settings? At this stage mine are STOCK but I would like to investigate if some settings can be optimised to reduce temperature No tweaks. Successful memtest (approx 3 hours). I placed the order on June 17, making the delivery time about 3 weeks. The Changwang has the same as yours, 60W brick. mphnrwg ulbqkr uhsrq lorkngi iybqb gghq qbxm dvzvzn njwx yuad